HopeSprings
12-16 02:35 PM
I have been intending to post this for a while: I still have major doubts on the predictions made by DOS. We all are grateful to them to at least do an effort to provide such predictions, but things don't add up.
It is everyone's understanding that these predictions are based on the information about "preadjudicated applications" from USCIS. Now if you look at the total number of preadjudicated applications from what USCIS has published, it seems that PD (for EB2 India) will move to at least to 2007 if not 2008 by the end of fiscal year 2010. There are no new 485 filings (except for EB1 and EB2 ROW) and unless there is a "HUGE" increase in these categories, there is no other way to explain the basis for these predictions.
Someone else mentioned in this thread about the large number of filings in 2005 due to PERM, but remember, this should already be accounted for in USCIS's preadjudicated numbers.
So either these DOS predictions are some form of scare technique, or too much conservative estimate (so as not to disappoint people) or there is a missing piece of information that we have no clue about.
In any case, I do not claim to be a "better predictor" than DOS; but reality is that all these are pedictions and we have to wait till July-Sept 2010 to find out the truth.
Hoping for the best....:)
I agree with you. I think USCIS has made a conservative estimate, most likely, based on past spillover numbers. However, situation is little different this time. With the bad economy, there were less number of PERM applications filed in FY2009 that will claim visa numbers in FY2010. Also, with DOL taking ages to approve new PERM applications, there will be less applicants, that filed PERM this FY, claiming visa number. Thus, there will be lot more spillover this time than previous years. IV has taken this into consideration while doing its math but we cannot expect the same from USCIS. I think EB2I should at least move till mid if not till 2008.
It is everyone's understanding that these predictions are based on the information about "preadjudicated applications" from USCIS. Now if you look at the total number of preadjudicated applications from what USCIS has published, it seems that PD (for EB2 India) will move to at least to 2007 if not 2008 by the end of fiscal year 2010. There are no new 485 filings (except for EB1 and EB2 ROW) and unless there is a "HUGE" increase in these categories, there is no other way to explain the basis for these predictions.
Someone else mentioned in this thread about the large number of filings in 2005 due to PERM, but remember, this should already be accounted for in USCIS's preadjudicated numbers.
So either these DOS predictions are some form of scare technique, or too much conservative estimate (so as not to disappoint people) or there is a missing piece of information that we have no clue about.
In any case, I do not claim to be a "better predictor" than DOS; but reality is that all these are pedictions and we have to wait till July-Sept 2010 to find out the truth.
Hoping for the best....:)
I agree with you. I think USCIS has made a conservative estimate, most likely, based on past spillover numbers. However, situation is little different this time. With the bad economy, there were less number of PERM applications filed in FY2009 that will claim visa numbers in FY2010. Also, with DOL taking ages to approve new PERM applications, there will be less applicants, that filed PERM this FY, claiming visa number. Thus, there will be lot more spillover this time than previous years. IV has taken this into consideration while doing its math but we cannot expect the same from USCIS. I think EB2I should at least move till mid if not till 2008.
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casinoroyale
03-18 11:24 AM
This should answer MOST of the people's questions about this tax stimulus plan. Single (or) Married, have SSN or ITIN, you can find the answers by reading the following. (Cut/pasted from IRS website).
Are you eligible? (http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179211,00.html)
You're eligible if you have a valid Social Security Number (SSN) and show qualifying income of at least $3,000 on your federal tax return. Both people listed on a "married filing jointly" return must have valid SSNs to qualify for the payment — if only one has a valid SSN, neither can receive the payment.
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Examples:
(http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179214,00.html)
The stimulus payment –– both the basic component and the additional funds for qualifying children –– begins to phase out for individuals with adjusted gross incomes (AGI) over $75,000 and married couples who file a joint return with AGI over $150,000. The combined payment is reduced by 5 percent of the income above the AGI thresholds.
Here are two examples of how the phase out works:
An individual with AGI of $80,000 and federal income tax liability in excess of $600 would qualify for a basic rebate of $600. Because this individual’s AGI exceeds $75,000, however, her rebate is reduced by $250 (the credit is reduced by multiplying the amount of AGI over $75,000 by 5%). The taxpayer receives an economic stimulus payment of $350.
A married couple with two children, AGI of $160,000 and federal income tax liability before the child tax credit exceeding $1,200 qualifies for a basic rebate of $1,200 and an additional qualifying child credit of $600 for a total rebate of $1,800. But because the couple’s AGI exceeds $150,000, their rebate is reduced by $500 (the amount of AGI over $150,000 multiplied by 5%). The couple receives an economic stimulus payment of $1,300.
For SINGLES - bottom line is - if your total income in 2007 is >= $87k, you are not getting anything.
Are you eligible? (http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179211,00.html)
You're eligible if you have a valid Social Security Number (SSN) and show qualifying income of at least $3,000 on your federal tax return. Both people listed on a "married filing jointly" return must have valid SSNs to qualify for the payment — if only one has a valid SSN, neither can receive the payment.
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Examples:
(http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179214,00.html)
The stimulus payment –– both the basic component and the additional funds for qualifying children –– begins to phase out for individuals with adjusted gross incomes (AGI) over $75,000 and married couples who file a joint return with AGI over $150,000. The combined payment is reduced by 5 percent of the income above the AGI thresholds.
Here are two examples of how the phase out works:
An individual with AGI of $80,000 and federal income tax liability in excess of $600 would qualify for a basic rebate of $600. Because this individual’s AGI exceeds $75,000, however, her rebate is reduced by $250 (the credit is reduced by multiplying the amount of AGI over $75,000 by 5%). The taxpayer receives an economic stimulus payment of $350.
A married couple with two children, AGI of $160,000 and federal income tax liability before the child tax credit exceeding $1,200 qualifies for a basic rebate of $1,200 and an additional qualifying child credit of $600 for a total rebate of $1,800. But because the couple’s AGI exceeds $150,000, their rebate is reduced by $500 (the amount of AGI over $150,000 multiplied by 5%). The couple receives an economic stimulus payment of $1,300.
For SINGLES - bottom line is - if your total income in 2007 is >= $87k, you are not getting anything.
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SFSweta
07-11 01:03 PM
I can't believe this is how it feels to be sooo close to achieving your dream - regardless of how hard we've had to fight.....
Congratulations to each and everyone of you in EB2-India and China that have been pushing and clawing your way (just like I have) to get your greencards. While my PD is a month away - I am so glad for you. Get ready to go on a loooooong break (mentally, emotionally, and physically if possible as well).
I have been saving up every penny of my disposable income (after the shopping and eating out and everything else!) to go do the things I've wanted:
Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro
Spend 3 months with my family in India and Dubai
Go back to Culinary School
Go to Bordeaux and learn about wine
Become an amazing photographer (just like one of the members on this forum...)
The list goes on and on....
But most of all - I can't believe that the moment is here for almost ALL of us to be free of the shackles and really really live our lives. I'm proud to have participated in everything and hopefully we ALL worked to make this huge of a difference and will see this effort through to help all our colleagues stuck in the EB3-India and China mess....
Congratulations to each and everyone of you in EB2-India and China that have been pushing and clawing your way (just like I have) to get your greencards. While my PD is a month away - I am so glad for you. Get ready to go on a loooooong break (mentally, emotionally, and physically if possible as well).
I have been saving up every penny of my disposable income (after the shopping and eating out and everything else!) to go do the things I've wanted:
Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro
Spend 3 months with my family in India and Dubai
Go back to Culinary School
Go to Bordeaux and learn about wine
Become an amazing photographer (just like one of the members on this forum...)
The list goes on and on....
But most of all - I can't believe that the moment is here for almost ALL of us to be free of the shackles and really really live our lives. I'm proud to have participated in everything and hopefully we ALL worked to make this huge of a difference and will see this effort through to help all our colleagues stuck in the EB3-India and China mess....
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rajuram
09-01 09:40 PM
Came in Sept 99, still waiting ....seems more like a century. Survived a major blunder by the lawyer...
god help me and all others !
god help me and all others !
Ramba
09-08 12:34 PM
Well said. On top of all this, there is a huge social pressure on NRIs from Indian parents/relatives to buy a property in India. It goes like this, if Hari, Babu and Kanwal all have it, why don't you buy something in Delhi as well. Now builders have started talking in terms of crores. You call them and ask the price, they would say "point six", means zero point six crores (for 1200 sq ft 2 BHK). There is no way on this earth someone should pay that much for 1200 sq ft in Noida/Delhi/Anywhere in India.
My advise, let people, relatives say what they want to say. This market is bound to come down. Just wait and see. Thank you.
Yes. 0.6 crore for 2b apt is way too much. If you put little more money here in TX, you can buy a manson (4/5 bed room independent house) with swiming pool. However, one can not ignore the advise of having property/house in home country, for many other reasons. But the price should be reasonable/cost worthy.
My advise, let people, relatives say what they want to say. This market is bound to come down. Just wait and see. Thank you.
Yes. 0.6 crore for 2b apt is way too much. If you put little more money here in TX, you can buy a manson (4/5 bed room independent house) with swiming pool. However, one can not ignore the advise of having property/house in home country, for many other reasons. But the price should be reasonable/cost worthy.
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gsc999
07-21 03:39 PM
Look at this post. The thoughts are compelling. Is this something that we should get some clarifications on?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10859
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This is what trolls have done in the past. When ever we have had a successful event. Trolls from anti-immigration groups, demand disclosure of financial statements and raise doubts on IV leadership. Don't get drawn into this. Lets keep doing what we are.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10859
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This is what trolls have done in the past. When ever we have had a successful event. Trolls from anti-immigration groups, demand disclosure of financial statements and raise doubts on IV leadership. Don't get drawn into this. Lets keep doing what we are.
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coopheal
12-27 12:20 PM
Let's brainstorm on what we can do to remove country limits restrictions.
We will push for that in CIR if not prior.
We will push for that in CIR if not prior.
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coopheal
08-12 12:34 PM
They could have done this and re-captured visas with additional fees or whatever. And called it greencard fraud fees it that makes them happy. But the fact is they did not want to do anything to give relief to Immigrants. Recapture (hundreds of thousands of visas) would have significantly helped helped retrogressed countries like EB3 India, China, ROW and EB2 India China. They can take additional fees as long as we know the recapture is being done.
Very true. If he really meant what he said (inovating companies use of H1B) in the speach, bill would have something to alleviate employment based GC backlog.
Very true. If he really meant what he said (inovating companies use of H1B) in the speach, bill would have something to alleviate employment based GC backlog.
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sansas
02-27 11:55 AM
Dreaming on the April Visa Bulletin in the US
How about placing a fast forward button and soon you will realized that the US Immigration DOS will issue a spectacular Visa Bulletin for April 2009. See the results of the said bulletin. The Employment base Visas will be current except China. So how did the USCIS allocate these number of Visas, for sure Obama had precedent a recapture except China.
http://nursepod.com/blog/?p=168
How about placing a fast forward button and soon you will realized that the US Immigration DOS will issue a spectacular Visa Bulletin for April 2009. See the results of the said bulletin. The Employment base Visas will be current except China. So how did the USCIS allocate these number of Visas, for sure Obama had precedent a recapture except China.
http://nursepod.com/blog/?p=168
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nyte_crawler
04-25 05:25 PM
Seriously it is impossible to change anything with the back-dated 100k applications. The only thing that could be done is help the future immigrants in a much better fashion. The only solution I see is, apply this rule after 1/1/2006. By applying this rule to back-dated applications will only create more chaos. Why would anybody would want to change the line again, because it is a different situation now. I would'nt. If that is the case, then USCIS should withdraw all their approved out-of-line GCs during 2004, atleast the retrogression will not be this bad. The best idea would be to wait and see if the current bill makes it out to the president with all the amendments included. That should relieve some or most of the retrogression.
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soarin3655
08-05 09:49 AM
LoneDesi:
What changes are needed when sending a letter from an EB3-I point of view?
The processing dates you have mentioned correspond only to EB2.
Thanks.
What changes are needed when sending a letter from an EB3-I point of view?
The processing dates you have mentioned correspond only to EB2.
Thanks.
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09-10 12:38 PM
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geesee
09-12 10:59 AM
Liked the calculator idea! Count me in..
One qns - how are we planning to catch media's attention? It was easier during flower campagin as flowers were clearly visible in fedex/ups trucks.. But the calculators would be inside a box...
One qns - how are we planning to catch media's attention? It was easier during flower campagin as flowers were clearly visible in fedex/ups trucks.. But the calculators would be inside a box...
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stldude
07-06 03:20 PM
Nobody was complaining b4 Jun 13th.. It's sucks when people get their hopes up and then go back to the infinite wait stage again... USCIS should be held responsible for it... Don't u agree ??
why would you have sleepless nights till Oct? Did you have sleepless nights before June 13th? Your sleepiness should be the same as it was before June 13th!
why would you have sleepless nights till Oct? Did you have sleepless nights before June 13th? Your sleepiness should be the same as it was before June 13th!
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murali77
07-09 05:39 PM
I am in for the LA rally. Live in San Fernando valley.
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gcgoingon
12-10 06:45 PM
We are one of those unluckiest ones; I changed my company 2 months before July fiasco and (EB2 PD Aug 23, '06) and never got a chance again to file I-485.
It is very frustrating (to say the least) to wait and it seems it may take another ~2 years to file I-485. It is hard on my wife in particular as she completed her masters in 2008 and narrowly lost jobs offers because companies do not wanted to H1b transfer these days.
I do not see any hope of this agony end anytime soon :(
It is very frustrating (to say the least) to wait and it seems it may take another ~2 years to file I-485. It is hard on my wife in particular as she completed her masters in 2008 and narrowly lost jobs offers because companies do not wanted to H1b transfer these days.
I do not see any hope of this agony end anytime soon :(
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axp817
09-14 11:45 AM
I have to agree with SC3. PD porting from one EB category to another is a provision that falls within USCIS guidelines.
Yes, if an overwhelming number of applicants from a (more) retrogressed category port to a non (or less) retrogressed category, it 'hurts' some people.
I am EB2-I 2006 by the way, and this will hurt me as well. But I can't bash someone for utilizing to their advantage an option that is provided by the system.
And who am I kidding, if I was in their place, I would be doing the same thing.
Yes, if an overwhelming number of applicants from a (more) retrogressed category port to a non (or less) retrogressed category, it 'hurts' some people.
I am EB2-I 2006 by the way, and this will hurt me as well. But I can't bash someone for utilizing to their advantage an option that is provided by the system.
And who am I kidding, if I was in their place, I would be doing the same thing.
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conchshell
05-01 09:17 AM
So according to Mr. aytes, everything is fine, and house need not worry about bringing any reforms. This is a typical SYB response from a career USCIS beuorocrate.
test101
07-06 05:26 PM
http://www.immigration-law.com/ under breaking news.
also they just updated the following
07/06/2007: Temporary Restrain Order of July Visa Bulletin Lawsuit Filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois as Separate from AILF Class Action
On July 6, 2007, the attorneys of Azulay, Horn & Seiden lawfirm filed this lawsuit individually in Illinois.
seriously i'm about to loose my marbels from today confusing news.
also they just updated the following
07/06/2007: Temporary Restrain Order of July Visa Bulletin Lawsuit Filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois as Separate from AILF Class Action
On July 6, 2007, the attorneys of Azulay, Horn & Seiden lawfirm filed this lawsuit individually in Illinois.
seriously i'm about to loose my marbels from today confusing news.
dpp
07-06 12:15 PM
I have changed the thread title.
Thanks, i don't want to confuse, but i just put something to post it initially.
Thanks, i don't want to confuse, but i just put something to post it initially.
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